Comments on: Hidden dangers for consumers – Trojan Technologies http://www.aquick.org/blog/2006/03/20/hidden-dangers-for-consumers-trojan-technologies/ entertaining hundreds of millions of eyeball atoms every day Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:06:22 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Matt Whyndham http://www.aquick.org/blog/2006/03/20/hidden-dangers-for-consumers-trojan-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-701 Matt Whyndham Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:55:57 +0000 http://www.aquick.org/blog/?p=1077#comment-701 Excellent roundup that's worth at least a bookmark, now, shall I entrust it to whoever the owners of del.icio.us happen to be, or write it down on a bit of paper? Excellent roundup that’s worth at least a bookmark, now, shall I entrust it to whoever the owners of del.icio.us happen to be, or write it down on a bit of paper?

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By: ezra http://www.aquick.org/blog/2006/03/20/hidden-dangers-for-consumers-trojan-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-700 ezra Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:47:43 +0000 http://www.aquick.org/blog/?p=1077#comment-700 Hehe. . . the point about remote data storage reminds me of the inability of police to inspect one's trunk during a traffic stop without a separate warrant. So, given that it's massively useful to be able to remotely access data, what's the solution? Is some clever EFF-minded entrepreneur out there offering data storage that qualifies as one's legal property (say, by selling hard drives by the gigbyte) and so enjoys greater 4th Amendment protection? Off topic: having just bought a home, I was utterly astonished at the amount of info the mortgage lender gets from me. Bank statements, tax returns, pay stubs, SSN, DOB. . . it would be utter child's play for them to steal my identity if they were so inclined. And the only alternative is to apply for a higher-security mortgage which comes with a higher rate. . . effectively costing thousands of dollars. Some option. Hehe. . . the point about remote data storage reminds me of the inability of police to inspect one’s trunk during a traffic stop without a separate warrant.

So, given that it’s massively useful to be able to remotely access data, what’s the solution? Is some clever EFF-minded entrepreneur out there offering data storage that qualifies as one’s legal property (say, by selling hard drives by the gigbyte) and so enjoys greater 4th Amendment protection?

Off topic: having just bought a home, I was utterly astonished at the amount of info the mortgage lender gets from me. Bank statements, tax returns, pay stubs, SSN, DOB. . . it would be utter child’s play for them to steal my identity if they were so inclined. And the only alternative is to apply for a higher-security mortgage which comes with a higher rate. . . effectively costing thousands of dollars. Some option.

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By: daw http://www.aquick.org/blog/2006/03/20/hidden-dangers-for-consumers-trojan-technologies/comment-page-1/#comment-698 daw Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:49:10 +0000 http://www.aquick.org/blog/?p=1077#comment-698 I think the debit card situation is worse than that -- in principle, under the law, there are situations under which someone can steal money from your debit card account and even after investigating and proving this, the bank doesn't have to pay you back -- unlike for a credit card. Of course, they may do so out of the goodness of their heart (in my experience they even credit money back to you during investigation) but there is obviously a big difference between what they are required to do by law and what they volunteer to do, even as policy. I think the debit card situation is worse than that — in principle, under the law, there are situations under which someone can steal money from your debit card account and even after investigating and proving this, the bank doesn’t have to pay you back — unlike for a credit card. Of course, they may do so out of the goodness of their heart (in my experience they even credit money back to you during investigation) but there is obviously a big difference between what they are required to do by law and what they volunteer to do, even as policy.

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